Ooh, tell me about him then. I could somewhat understand why he was being protective, but really.
He was just vile. All around vile. John Conroy is one of the people in royal history I just can’t stand. He used Victoire to get status, and did not treat her right. Obviously he didn’t love her; he skipped town as soon as Victoria got married and it became obvious he wouldn’t get the position he was after. Not to mention he was apparently married when a lot of this went down, though you never hear anything about his wife. He probably had her tucked off out of the way like Robert Dudley did.
He tried to bully his way into becoming Victoria’s secretary, and harassed her when she was ill. Not to mention he got involved in some shady stuff later that had nothing to do with her. Good for Victoria kicking his nasty ass out of her household.
Honestly, I think Conroy must’ve been a moron considering he treated Victoria badly and didn’t seem to care that she disliked him yet he expected to gain status from her when she became Queen. Even if she’d gotten the throne earlier and Victoire became Regent, that would have ended eventually. It’s almost like he went out of his way to make enemies and stir shit up. Or maybe that stemmed from Victoire. Either way, his villainy was restrained significantly by his lack of people skills. If he’d been a charming Dickie Mountbatten type he’d have gotten much further.
Ok, so I just watched The Young Victoria. Did her mother (the German woman) really love her daughter, or was she merely possessive?
I believe she did love her daughter very much, but like many royal women she regarded her child as a royal heir more so than as a child. It’s almost comparable to stage mothers who see their kids as a way to improve their own life. In fact, Victoire was a lot like a stage mother from the possessiveness, to the diva behavior, to putting her other kids on the back burner.
Her paranoia wasn’t totally based around Victoria’s position as heir to the throne, though. Victoire had lost two husbands, and she knew that young women from Victoria’s father’s family had a habit of dying young. There was a major shortage of heirs. Also, Victoire made a lot of sacrifaces for Victoria’s claim to the throne; she would have greatly preferred to live in Germany rather than England. Women of that time period were prepared to deal with losing a child, but in Victoire’s case if something happened to Victoria both she and her other family would end up in a much worse situation. So she went really overboard.
I think (like Mary of Teck and quite a few other royal ladies) she was a crap mother, but yes she loved her daughter and being a crap mother doesn’t necessarily mean she was a bad person. Things were very different for women in her time.
Also, I’ve always been under the impression John Conroy was abusing her and perhaps that caused her to act worse than she would’ve otherwise. Relationships like that can really screw with your judgement. But you didn’t ask about John Conroy and I could go on forever about him.
Is it true that Chelsy Davy had good grades/honor student despite being a party girl? i just read it somewhere
Yes. She’s a lawyer, and that requires decent grades and academic credentials. But it’s also worth noting her father is loaded, and that can sometimes make things easier for students. But she’s obviously not as stupid as people think. She’s made the best of her background and connections; the lawfirm she works for has connections to the royal family.
Can you post pictures of royal rings? Not engagement rings. I have a website that I found that is full of Diana's but I can't find anyone else. If you type it into google all they give you are engagement rings!
Sorry, I don’t have anything. I did a bit of digging and the only photos I could find were engagement and wedding rings. Except for Diana, but even there I couldn’t find much. I know Margaret had some cool ones, but I can’t find individual pictures. I have a whole book on Wallis’s jewelry, but the only rings featured are her engagement (and the alternate engagement) and wedding rings.
Several sites exist to document royal jewelry, but all I could find as to rings were engagement rings.
I do have photos of Elizabeth I’s locket ring, which I’ll post tonight. But that’s all I have. If anyone else can find something please submit it and I’ll put it up.
Will Prince Harry give an engagement ring coming from his mother's jewelry collection? if yes, which ring will it be?
I don’t know. I would say Diana’s engagement ring because that was left to him, but Kate has it now. I am not sure what else Harry inherited, but I’m sure he has quite a lot of options. He probably would like to use a ring that belonged to his mother or the Spencer family, but so much of it depends on the girl and her taste. Most men, when picking a ring, take into account the girl’s personality and tastes. Hell, he might just go buy something from a jewelry store if that’s what fits best. He also may use something that belonged to the Queen Mum or another ancestor.
What happened to the Duke of Windsor's wardrobe? Are his clothes in a museum? Thanks. Richard CARRENO. Writers Clearinghouse/Junto
Sold at auction. When Al Fayed bought the house he invited Prince Charles over, who took a few things, mostly kilts. Perhaps a few other relatives were given a chance to take things as well. From what I gather Wallis had held on to pretty much everything (most accounts indicate she went full-on Queen Victoria and kept all his things exactly as they’d been) but it is possible she gave a few things to friend or relatives so it was dealt with after her death. Maitre Blum may have given away or sold a few things, but she tended to prefer big-ticket items rather than clothes.
The vast majority was sold off at the auction in 1997. You can see descriptions of some outfits as well as photos in the auction guide, which most people are not hard core enough to own. There was actually a picture going around on Tumblr earlier this year that inspired clothes envy in preppies and hipsters alike.
“Even when [Catherine Middleton] attended Autumn Kelly’s 2008 marriage to William’s cousin Peter Phillips, she did so without her royal beau, who was overseas at the time.”—
Prince William and Kate: A Celebration of their First Royal Tour. Hello! Royal Special. 2011 Commemorative Edition.
…which failed to mention that William was “overseas” indeed….in Kenya, acting as supporter to Batian Craig, brother of Jessica “Jecca” Craig, on the occasion of his (Batian’s) wedding. Oh, how the romantics do sometimes rewrite history!
I truly don't know what to make of your Blog. You have a broad, though not very deep - and somewhat inarticulate - knowledge of the Royal Family. But you LAVISH attention on the despicable Duchess of Windsor ( who was not Royal ) whilst castigating, in no uncertain terms, His Royal Highness the Prince of Wales. And, what horrifies me the most, is that I'm beginning to suspect you may be actually British ! (I might be wrong on this last point - but you pepper your responses with English phrases.)
My dear old grandmum was British, but I assure you I’m 100% American. I listen to country music and everything.
I’ve already addressed my feelings on both Charles and Wallis. Honestly, I feel like if you’re willing to look past Charles’s numerous sins you probably shouldn’t be judging anyone else outside of violent criminals.
Can you give us a pre-mole treatment and a post-mole treatment?
Gimme a second; I’ll make a post so I can upload pictures from my computer. There aren’t too many where you can see the mole because Wallis always wanted it airbrushed out and it was only visible up close. In some pictures you can see she’s turning her head a bit to the right on purpose to hide the mole.
In one of your earlier posts you mentioned that Wallis got her first facelift while visiting the U.S. (maybe you said NYC) during the early 1940's when the Duke was Governor of The Bahamas. Do you know how many facelifts she had, and when they took place? Ever tried to compile a pictorial history of the evolving "enhanced" Wallis? I enjoy your blog a lot. Thanks. .... Jim
I really don’t know for sure. According to The Woman He Loved (pg. 441/2) some celebrity plastic surgeon basically admitted to treating Wallis at a press conference (I’m picturing this guy as Christian Troy from Nip/Tuck) and claimed to have worked on her neck. My guess is she had several facelifts every few years from the mid-‘50’s on. Whatever she had done earlier may have been more minor and held up better. Probably had it done in Switzerland or Austria where there were little resorts where the rich and famous could get work done away from prying eyes so they could later deny it. I mean, Wallis obviously would’ve denied it if anyone had the nerve to ask.
The best part was when that mole she’d always hated mysteriously disappeared after one of her trips. You can obviously tell she had work done (and not good work at that) but not specifically when certain changes occured. She tended to have posed photos airbrushed and personal or paparazzi photos don’t normally give a good view of her face. I wish I could give you a timeline or something, but I went digging in my books and couldn’t really get any specific dates or places. I’m sure Wallis threw out the receipts, though she wasn’t fooling anyone.
If I see any good examples from dated photos, I’ll give her the full celebrity plastic surgery treatment. I judge people who get work done really harshly, but I’ll give Wallis a partial pass because she took such a ridiculous amount of shit for her looks. Most of the rumors about her somehow tie into how ugly she supposedly was. I mean, people think she was so unattractive she couldn’t have been completely female. It’s ridiculous and I can only imagine what that would do to someone’s self esteem.
Thanks! I really enjoyed your response. I was just thinking that sometimes a royal finds out that a biography is being written about them, or even the author may get harassed, so when the book comes out you will see that some details are very vague or points are made that aren't very clear. Like how we were talking about the Japanese royal family. Only bare bones are given and if there's more then it's just an anonymous source.
Oh, I’m sure the Windsors have had that done a lot. Prince Charles seems like the type to send his people after biographers trying to make him look bad. The Japanese royal family doesn’t do so much as shutting people up as much as they just keep stuff from getting out to begin with.
Of course these days most authors would rather just make up stuff about Wallis Simpson’s penis than print something actually true that could stir things up. I’ve always felt the most twisted secrets stay in the family. Like George V’s death; that wouldn’t have ever gotten out had his doctor not written about it in his diary. Later a letter from David came out that basically confirmed it. Before this first-hand evidence came out no one even suspected anything like that. None of the many tabloids or trash biographies written in the fifty years between when it happened and when it came out even guessed that George died of anything but natural causes. I feel like the darkest secrets are the ones that are kept the most private.
Which royal palace is your favorite? It can be used currently or not, and belong to a country that has a monarch or used to.
Windsor Castle, no question. Not the most lovely from the outside, but many of the rooms are stunning inside. The history is the main reason I love it; all my favorite royals were there at some point. It’s a really remarkable building.
What is the most suspicious royal mystery you've ever read? I mean like while reading a biography or some other book you noticed that details were skimped or something just didn't seem quite right.
I’m guessing you mean stuff that’s vaguely sinister/creepy? I know tons of stuff that I’ve wondered about over the years that’s fairly innocent. But I also know some darker stories.
1. The Princes in the Tower. This is a big one for me and I’ve read several books purely devoted to this mystery. Honestly, I think Richard did it. I really don’t think Henry Tudor did it, and I will defend him to the death over this. But I’m not sure about Richard as I do think Buckingham seems hella sketchy too. It’s just so bizarre how those two little boys disappeared without a trace. But this is a rather famous mystery, not one that just comes off as suspicious.
2. Amy Dudley. What happened to Amy Dudley? I wrote a paper on this one a few years ago. Nothing really fits. I’m very surprised that most of the many movies and TV shows about Elizabeth I have avoided this one completely. But most bios have gone into it in some detail.
3. The Monster of Glamis. I may do a post on this one later so I’ll be brief now. Basically there was a legend that in the Queen Mum’s family home of Glamis there was a secret chamber where the rightful heir to the family title was kept. Apparently he was born severely deformed and the family pretended he was dead, but he was actually locked up and fed through a secret window. On moonless nights he was allowed to exercise on the grounds. There’s a whole bunch of mythology associated with this story and apparently the Queen Mum herself encouraged it. I’ve always imagined young Elizabeth sneaking off at night to look for the monster. There’s all sorts of mythology associated with Glamis.
4. I remember reading once Queen Mary may have been done in like her husband was. I’ve always wondered who else the Windsors might have done something like that to. I remember being so creeped out and disgusted when I heard what had happened to George V. The supposed explanation makes it creepier: apparently he was done in so his death would make the morning papers instead of the afternoon ones. Either that’s bullshit or he was done in because they didn’t want him lingering him on as an invalid (I find this believable) or the Windsors truly are the world’s most fucked up family. Either way it seems likely he wasn’t the first/last person who was killed in such a manner. I also don’t buy David’s later claim he had no idea what was being done until after the fact. Not that I blame him, but I think he knew what was going to happen. Queen Mary probably not only knew but gave it the okay. Who knows? It may have been her idea.